Connected Speech Meetings: AE, SMG, DFC, SKMK, KM

MAIN TASK: Copying clipping data status from ARCHIVE 0.Connected_Speech_Clipping to Connected Speech Data analysis

Jun 10, 2024

Data Analysis Smartsheets- adding file type recording and saved as options

Ensure dropdown options are allowed

Allow for multiple select from dropdown for each column

1. WAIT for next step when Sonia gives green light-

Diana already included data on how it was saved for all pre-R01 Samples. For pre-r01 samples all samples were recorded through Zoom

Changed drop down of “saved as” options in the Connected Speech Clipping sheet

1. Decided we would allow for multiple options for the samples saved in audio and video and clipped in both formats

Double-check status of moving of clipping sheet for R01 samples to the Data Analyses Smartsheet -

In this Spanish Smartsheet: https://app.smartsheet.com/workspaces/vGQcrxvPX9fF449983RW8CC9WrcvQMV82Rhv9gw1

Copy and paste each row of data from the yellow ID to the row of the same timepoint of the participant but without the yellow highlighting

Mid-tx video clipping

1. All recordings are in Zoom, when possible as .m4a, recorded as and saved as. The same process in audacity can be used.

Transcription- Updating file structure

Copying files from here: Bilingual_PPA_Samples_UTBattery to here: using the reports to check status:

1. B--Connected Speech_Data-Clinical Trial- Spanish

4.PicnicScene_coded_chat

4. ImportantEvent_coded_chat

4.CatRescue_coded_chat

1. B--Connected Speech_Data-Clinical Trial- Catalan

4.PicnicScene_coded_chat

4.mportantEvent_coded_chat

4.CatRescue_coded_chat

1. B--Connected Speech_Data-Clinical Trial- English

2. 4.PicnicScene_coded_chat

   4.mportantEvent_coded_chat

   4.CatRescue_coded_chat

Simultaneously update status data of WHAT has actually been transcribed

Missing will be status if it says it was transcribed but cannot be located

2.Planning MINT

English smartsheet different columns, why?? - https://app.smartsheet.com/sheets/3w8g9fjmv3mV5RwwcpR7rGWMhxgPr8W5qr437F71

1. towards the end of sheet there are columns in Spanish and Catalan and need to be deleted and some columns need to be added to the English sheet

MINT drop down (check if it's okay, added to the 3 smartsheets, Spanish, Catalan, English) 

• Clipped

• Administered but not clipped

• Not administered

• Missing

1. No need to add format of file type for MINT

1.English Audios Pre-R01

Jun 25, 2024 KPM- Need to check if Clipping guide was updated correctly

Jun 20, 2024

non-r01, eval basica

where to save: 1 separate MAIN folder with everyone that is not R01.

VISTA Clipping

1. BISE013’s files: .wav files were not yet being collected consistently for VISTA clipping, so we need to use all video for this patient
2. BISE005 files have only partial data and partial observations at post so Ana Elisa will include what we have and create a readme

Video Clipping Guide

Reclipping-

Ana Elisa found some audios that needed to be reclipped from Kayle, Kyleigh and Shayla have helped clipping them

VISTA suggestion

VISTA

Jul 29, 2024

CS instrument change

Kyleigh last day

Oct 3, 2024

CLIPPING

• Decisión 20241003- Siempre hacer clipping según las indicaciones de Dr.Grasso, si no por default siempre hacer primero las de la fecha más antigua.  

• Shayla downloads box drive or box sync for next meeting

• Ask Ana Elisa to adding SMK and Shayla to channel 

• access to Dr.Henry's smartsheet - use it to edit when necessary, but it's more recommended to use your own account for general tasks

• add column for date for the samples in 0.VISTA_Probes 

  • asignar a Hallel y Jada de añadir las fechas (cuando acaben de hacer clipping de las muestras que les faltan)

• Clipping progress

  • VISTA - ready all timepoints?

    • some of them we used the zoom, no audio, -- this is documented in lab notebook -- SMK: recommend having this information in the 0.VISTA_Probes smartsheet 

      • TASK: adding a column in 0.VISTA to indicate if sample is missing in audio -- "Audio uploaded and copied to box" "yes, no, missing, yes but audio unuseable" 1. Missing audio and another column of "note in regards to missing sample"

  • CS - ready all timepoints?

  • TASK: reviewing if they are OBS or Clinical Trial looking at 

    • Option A. Redcap, anamnesis --- future task: create report of CS

    • Option B. Madr participant information

  • Task for SMK- monthly check that the audios are correctly saved

  • Midtx audios clarified

• Diana’s update

• Started on English pre R01, but not yet complete (there is a lot of missing videos).

CLIPPING

• Decisión 20241003- Siempre hacer clipping según las indicaciones de Dr.Grasso, si no por default siempre hacer primero las de la fecha más antigua.  

• Shayla downloads box drive or box sync for next meeting

• Ask Ana Elisa to adding SMK and Shayla to channel 

• access to Dr.Henry's smartsheet - use it to edit when necessary, but it's more recommended to use your own account for general tasks

• add column for date for the samples in 0.VISTA_Probes 

  • asignar a Hallel y Jada de añadir las fechas (cuando acaben de hacer clipping de las muestras que les faltan)

• Clipping progress

  • VISTA - ready all timepoints?

    • some of them we used the zoom, no audio, -- this is documented in lab notebook -- SMK: recommend having this information in the 0.VISTA_Probes smartsheet 

      • TASK: adding a column in 0.VISTA to indicate if sample is missing in audio -- "Audio uploaded and copied to box" "yes, no, missing, yes but audio unuseable" 1. Missing audio and another column of "note in regards to missing sample"

  • CS - ready all timepoints?

  • TASK: reviewing if they are OBS or Clinical Trial looking at 

    • Option A. Redcap, anamnesis --- future task: create report of CS

    • Option B. Madr participant information

  • Task for SMK- monthly check that the audios are correctly saved

  • Midtx audios clarified

Task report

Edit to setup

Transcription

SPANISH Ana Elisa+Whendy updates:

• Dr Santos transcriptions

  • transcriptions - all done

  • reliability ratings in July - Ana Elisa lab notebook

    • double rate 10%, ratings were quite high, all above 80%

• Kesha paper - Connected Speech WAB picnic scene lvPPA and nfvPPA pre and post - ALL transcribed (pre and post)

  • SMK asks to transcribe new samples: BISE020, BILP029 (transcribed by Whendy and AE during week of 10/4) - also completed.

  • Post not for Kesha’s paper, but transcribed because some pre samples were missing/bad audio and also because some postx were going to be used for AoA but weren’t used

  • Reliability only ran for POST- for Spanish, 4 transcriptions,

    • all ok, high reliability

• -VISTA samples - in progress re-revising transcriptions after new transcription rules.

  • Question about omitting BISE016’s frequent production of “&+ea”

  • https://cloud.wikis.utexas.edu/wiki/x/noFZAw question about how to code strange speech production with interword pause.

• Training Spanish transcribers

  • Alejandra - difficulty in tricky sample - reliability 80%, if she’s supervised - whisper runner!

  • Alexa - whisper runner!

• Lucian

CATALAN - SMK updates:

• Helena samples assigned, meeting will be scheduled when she finishes them and I check them

   

• Connected Speech WAB picnic scene - https://utexas.box.com/s/d7dpq68mcx2f28vxmpgul8fv52xlldtz questions

• VISTA samples -

  • report created for checking / https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/mFPxVQ3f5mChG788GjMhhQrrrRQ5XJf4cV2pMpQ1?view=grid will fill out columns of Status and coded accordingly

  • Errors?

    • *PAR: una vegada a la setmana anem [//] anar al supermercat perquè lo [/]
      lo porto, no ho porto. https://utexas.box.com/s/d4b3t20bjg1xtwkxqb2yvzt1biihnil3

    • unknown word: ibiscu, hibisc

      • *PAR: perquè tinc un ibiscu, un ficus xxx i varies geronis. https://utexas.box.com/s/ssybqahgzotre2y7m88nmxh4www8t5st

• Samples sent to kesha and andrew via teams chathttps://utexas.box.com/s/vmxbyo0an4iimym1k9h4wtgmabgmq92p

• Dashes issue solved? - confirm, clitics not an issue, always transcribe with dashes in Catalan

• Reliability reports for Dr. Santos: https://utexas.box.com/s/t2yczrmfebqiqn1q485zrxi0u9xhszde

RELIABILITY

• Instructions added for Rely: https://cloud.wikis.utexas.edu/wiki/x/jg9rDQ

• Rely run for PRE

  • PostTx WAB Picnic (Sept. 24)

  • PreTx WAB picnic (Oct. 29). Rely report before transcriptions were finalized here: https://utexas.box.com/s/oc356jopxoh0zqlp25ggdm8snnd6wart

  • BISE010 low reliability:

    • meeting for consensus (meeting SMK, WM, AE) - consensus made. Final transcription for BISE010 (tricky sample): https://utexas.box.com/s/ouslps2ot2u4c4chptljyu7n5j7z42qg

      • transcriptions of sounds, paraphasia vs distorsion vs unintelligible

      • Influence of Catalan, patient dominant in catalan, - code switches

        • Participant that is super catalan dominant - ask Sonia to transcribe

    • Samples with low reliability - meeting

    • Whendy and AE finalized the transcriptions on Oct. 29/31

    • Add columns: https://app.smartsheet.com/sheets/29c56pPH98JW66r6h7fxp8M3rM5cv6xQJqPJm4m1

      • column reliability total %

      • where the reliability output is found, link of box

      •  

PLANNING

• Back ups for transcriptions - copy always the folder before running to analysis

  https://cloud.wikis.utexas.edu/wiki/x/BYFZAw

• Decision with Andrew CAC

  • WAB picnic -

  • VISTA spontaneous probes -

• Decision Alexa and Alejandra rename audios from VISTA to remove 1 and 2 from Spa

  • And let clippers know that they should stop naming the files with 1 and 2

PLANNING

• Discuss proposal: https://utexas.box.com/s/ghd8ho1ciko1n2le94u796cnhcf57rgw

Open

• Castilian dialect - regional variation

• Mexico dialect

• Puerto Rico dialect

• Catalan - regional variation, català-central, etc.,

Rule add dialect of participant to the drop down

other info:

• Hometown (where did they grew up)- sociodemographic questionnaire

Next tasks:

• develop clipping wiki: https://cloud.wikis.utexas.edu/wiki/x/twc-Dg with links to the clipping guide, etc.,

• to move MINT samples here: https://utexas.box.com/s/00jk6h0p5tw1900bcyuanr1sziqmsywe MINT samples are saved here: https://utexas.box.com/s/6dh0k3zje1xencqh5nh1mbdj8l8rttpx and check it here: https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/3Hg9hM3vq6QQcc7hQ7Cxv7rr79r5c8F6cx793j61 (important task!)

• start clipping MINTs using date of administration to find video in participant folder - Shayla access to redcap, export data, or ask SMK to create excel and add dates to the smartsheet

  • Add columns of MINT administration to the smartsheets

• Meetings needed, when

  • Connected Speech planning (structure) - tasks pending - pre-r01 data, MINT.. see previous notes, no meeting needed, just more support, clipping students can help

  • Connected speech and VISTA transcription progress + Connected Reliability process

  • Connected Speech Clipping (Shayla lead)

  • Connected Speech Whisper (Whendy lead) Alejandra, Alexa - once trained just check every 2 weeks how they are doing

  • Connected Speech data analysis

• we have noticed that fo Spanish samples code switches are transcribed sometimes like (difficult on how similar languages are)

  • paraphasias, fragments, xxx

  • SOLUTION:

    • PROPS1: include it within the reliability, Rater 2 should be Helena/Núria/Sonia

    • PROPS2 (CWR): Having a code switching checker, if she notices a code switch she checks it in the smartsheet -

      • Alyne (brasilian spa-cat, recognizing code switching) non native speaker

      • Do a test (5 samples), if she misses one code switch is out - influence of catalan of samples, take notes, grammar, vocabulary, - 90% accuracy, (blinded) - transcripts+audios

    • PROPS3 (SMK): Helena/Núria/SMK listen to all WAB picnic and change if there are code switches - mark it in column in Smartsheet - Decide task by task – maybe Núria first

recommendation to use chat to ask questions in case there is a code-switch

Training -CATALAN transcriptions - Helena

Helena training complete, high reliability

• next steps - Diana has to give access to all systems

• which samples assign?

  • 1. CS picnic scene reliability? - 1 more sample

  • 2. VISTA samples?

•  

Chat preguntas transcripción

1. Cuanto tiempo toma hacer preguntas-respuestas

2. sistema mejor?

3. doubts

Discussion - effect on reliability, faster-more efficient

Have same for Helena

check by Mor doesn’t work

• Whendy update on students -

• Solution to not asking Kesha every time for access - do not log out

• Ana Elisa added to chat

  • after they run whisper, Whendy will meet with them and explain them where to find the audios and where to find them.

Reliability

• Instructions added for Rely: https://cloud.wikis.utexas.edu/wiki/x/jg9rDQ

Question transcription - final decision, how to transcribe

• as it is

• phonological paraphasias

BISE015_Pre2_VISTA_AmigosYApoyo

"entonces ellos me invita <a &+visitars> [//] a [/] a visitar

su casa."

BISE015_Pre2_VISTA_AmigosYApoyo

"entonces ellos me invita <a &+visitars> [//] a [/] a visitar su casa."

Link a .cha file: https://utexas.box.com/s/xjv5crmfab2w1e8irbv73vbrurmyy0j9

Link al audio: https://utexas.box.com/s/vdwubth9q1w4ot6iiqcbthd1iamahzgy (empieza como en el minuto 1:09)

Words not in CLAN library

example: ma (madre) detected as copula

mamí is not correct - correct in library

• issues with adjectives in MOR

https://utexas.box.com/s/7cl2a29xk7ddvc2yn0woa6cvthcefyat

Decision: code as paraphasia or keep as-is

• últimamente, los últimos quince años fue<eh director &+d general de una compañía inglesa>

  • sample: https://utexas.box.com/s/tr8t0iixuu5ki4xc3ztrfwruqcxjtflf

  • audio: https://utexas.box.com/s/5u1nxwn808mkskpm9yed9dontrr0sbpi

• siembra/siembren

• Decision 20241119 Code as phonological paraphasias

@Sonia Marqués add to the guide

PLANNING

• Castilian dialect - regional variation

• Mexico dialect

• Puerto Rico dialect

• Catalan - regional variation, català-central, etc.,

Rule add dialect of participant to the drop down

other info:

• Hometown (where did they grew up)- sociodemographic questionnaire

Next tasks pending to assign:

• to move MINT samples here: https://utexas.box.com/s/00jk6h0p5tw1900bcyuanr1sziqmsywe MINT samples are saved here: https://utexas.box.com/s/6dh0k3zje1xencqh5nh1mbdj8l8rttpx and check it here: https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/3Hg9hM3vq6QQcc7hQ7Cxv7rr79r5c8F6cx793j61 (important task!)

• Let @Shayla Fernandez Amaya know that students can help finding and clipping pre-r01 MINTs

• Meetings needed, when

  • Connected Speech planning (structure) - tasks pending - pre-r01 data, MINT.. see previous notes, no meeting needed, just more support, clipping students can help

  • Connected speech and VISTA transcription progress + Connected Reliability process

  • Connected Speech Clipping (Shayla lead)

  • Connected Speech Whisper (Whendy lead) Alejandra, Alexa - once trained just check every 2 weeks how they are doing

  • Connected Speech data analysis

• we have noticed that fo Spanish samples code switches are transcribed sometimes like (difficult on how similar languages are)

  • paraphasias, fragments, xxx

  • SOLUTION:

    • PROPS1: include it within the reliability, Rater 2 should be Helena/Núria/Sonia

    • PROPS2 (CWR): Having a code switching checker, if she notices a code switch she checks it in the smartsheet -

      • Alyne (brasilian spa-cat, recognizing code switching) non native speaker

      • Do a test (5 samples), if she misses one code switch is out - influence of catalan of samples, take notes, grammar, vocabulary, - 90% accuracy, (blinded) - transcripts+audios

    • PROPS3 (SMK): Helena/Núria/SMK listen to all WAB picnic and change if there are code switches - mark it in column in Smartsheet - Decide task by task – maybe Núria first

recommendation to use chat to ask questions in case there is a code-switch

Training -CATALAN transcriptions - Helena

Helena training complete, high reliability

• next steps - Diana has to give access to all systems

• which samples assign?

  • 1. CS picnic scene reliability? - 1 more sample

  • 2. VISTA samples?

•  

Chat preguntas transcripción

1. Cuanto tiempo toma hacer preguntas-respuestas

2. sistema mejor?

3. doubts

Discussion - effect on reliability, faster-more efficient

Have same for Helena

check by Mor doesn’t work

• Whendy update on students -

• Solution to not asking Kesha every time for access - do not log out

• Ana Elisa added to chat

  • after they run whisper, Whendy will meet with them and explain them where to find the audios and where to find them.

• Instructions added for Rely: https://cloud.wikis.utexas.edu/wiki/x/jg9rDQ @Nandhini Pakala please make letters bigger in scheme to visualize it better

• Connected Speech Reliability planning in Marqués, Sonia K: Connected Speech Reliability planning - updated after SM+AE meeting channel 

1. Separate meeting with Camille about how to join POM+reliability for transcriptions

Smartsheet link: https://app.smartsheet.com/sheets/29c56pPH98JW66r6h7fxp8M3rM5cv6xQJqPJm4m1

1. CS structure was already decided upon

• @Ana Elisa Quinonez Camacho created the CS folder structure for Spanish for Kesha’s project and for Dr. Santos' project during the week of 11/25. Note, since this process/structure was developed after reliability was run, the transcriber 1 samples are the final transcripts with consensus.

Dr. Santos' transcriptions

Kesha’s Samples

VISTA probes

Update from Ana Elisa VISTA https://utexas.box.com/s/krxn8jx3vza7rwy98bziou0e0wfgnrdh In progress, need to discuss in meeting. @Ana Elisa Quinonez Camacho added the PicnicScene_WAB_PostTX_Coded_Rely samples and the PicnicScene_WAB_PreTX_Coded_Rely samples to this folder structure.

1. Decision made in meeting: VISTA probes: We decided that the reliability scores for the post-tx WABs will be stored in the folder for the VISTA paper on Box and that in the Reliability Smartsheet, we will list the VISTA paper as the project for post, and both the VISTA and Kesha’s project for the pre-treatment WABs

GENERAL DOUBTS:

• 2. VISTA pre

• Dec 5, 2024 We create report to facilitate visualization https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/hjpVCvhjhr4x5q7XxpxCF5rJVgRw5PVcq7xvQ6R1

• IDEA! that it appears in the report when the students have processed it though whisper

______________________________________________________________________________

• Connected Speech Picnic scene:

• VISTA probes:

• Whendy as of 12/2: Finished transcribing BISE013_Post2, making final revisions, not yet ran through CLAN. Began transcribing BISE004.

• Ana Elisa 12/1: Currently working on BISE014_Post1. Need to revise BISE015_Post1, BISE014_Post2, and BISE015_Post2.

  • Note Catalanismo BISE014_BACC005_LaDificultadParaHablar: *PAR: estoy haciendo ejercicios para retardar la [//] el deterioramento [: deterioro. Decision on 12/3, code as phonological paraphasia.

• Dr.Santos samples:

Yes-Mild

Yes-Moderate

Yes-Severe

• CATALAN:

  • Connected Speech Picnic scene:

  • VISTA probes:

    • BISE018 completed by Núria and revised by Sonia,

    • Meeting with Helena Dec 4, 2024 to explain transcriptions for VISTA, next steps after finalizing CS picnic scene: https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/5VhfJFcCm4QRQhVRjgPxxHFgHWQ76C2qj9RPgcW1

• Columns of tasks need to be added in the Smartsheet report for better visibility - Whendy could not do it because of Smartsheet permissions. 2.4 CATALAN WHISPER - Smartsheet.com

PLANNING

• here is a draft: https://utexas.box.com/s/ktgzmnrte2t4uujmpg0uq479ew58mqk8 after consensus in next meeting, Sonia will add it on Smartsheet - add a column “Best estimate dialect” with all dialect options, drop down options specially for acoustic analysis, make list, consensus and create

• Castilian dialect - regional variation

• Mexico dialect

• Puerto Rico dialect

• Catalan - regional variation, català-central, etc.,

Rule add dialect of participant to the drop down if it doesn’t appear in it

other info:

• Hometown (where did they grew up)- sociodemographic questionnaire

Next tasks pending to assign:

• to move MINT samples here: https://utexas.box.com/s/00jk6h0p5tw1900bcyuanr1sziqmsywe MINT samples are saved here: https://utexas.box.com/s/6dh0k3zje1xencqh5nh1mbdj8l8rttpx and check it here: https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/3Hg9hM3vq6QQcc7hQ7Cxv7rr79r5c8F6cx793j61 (important task! 1 person)

• Plan for clipping teams, finding and clipping mints

• we have noticed that fo Spanish samples code switches are transcribed sometimes like (difficult on how similar languages are)

  • PROPS2 (CWR): Having a code switching checker, if she notices a code switch she checks it in the smartsheet -

    • Alyne (brasilian spa-cat, recognizing code switching) non native speaker

    • Do a test (5 samples), if she misses one code switch is out - influence of catalan of samples, take notes, grammar, vocabulary, - 90% accuracy, (blinded) - transcripts+audios

Training -CATALAN transcriptions - Lucian

@Sonia Marqués create 3 report with whisper transcription columns (SPA, CAT, ENG)

• Priority now VISTA

Smartsheet link: https://app.smartsheet.com/sheets/29c56pPH98JW66r6h7fxp8M3rM5cv6xQJqPJm4m1

1. Separate meeting with Camille about how to join POM+reliability for transcriptions

1. CS structure was already decided upon

Dr. Santos' transcriptions

Kesha’s Samples

VISTA probes

Update from Ana Elisa VISTA https://utexas.box.com/s/krxn8jx3vza7rwy98bziou0e0wfgnrdh In progress, need to discuss in meeting. @Ana Elisa Quinonez Camacho added the PicnicScene_WAB_PostTX_Coded_Rely samples and the PicnicScene_WAB_PreTX_Coded_Rely samples to this folder structure.

1. Decision made in meeting: VISTA probes: We decided that the reliability scores for the post-tx WABs will be stored in the folder for the VISTA paper on Box and that in the Reliability Smartsheet, we will list the VISTA paper as the project for post, and both the VISTA and Kesha’s project for the pre-treatment WABs

• Columns of tasks need to be added in the Smartsheet report for better visibility - Whendy could not do it because of Smartsheet permissions. 2.4 CATALAN WHISPER - Smartsheet.com

Column of repetitions-revisions, delete? https://app.smartsheet.com/reports/hjpVCvhjhr4x5q7XxpxCF5rJVgRw5PVcq7xvQ6R1?view=grid

• Pending to check important event and cat rescue